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Post by Diamondback on Sept 16, 2007 10:57:25 GMT -6
Gordon cries foul over points loss.It's sad enough that this fifteen year veteran with four Cup Championships is complaining that he lost a 370 point lead by making the Chase, but what's even worse is that Jim Hunter is actually listening to this sh*t and is actually considering tweaking the system... again. Here's a novel idea... let's build a 36 race season. You earn points for every race, and at the end of that 36 race season, the driver with the most points wins. The Chase was dreamed up because Kenseth won the title a few years back through consistently good finishes, without winning a single race. (or maybe he won one. something like that.) Drivers complained that guys winning six or seven races in a season couldn't keep up. Boo freakin' hoo. The drivers get their wish with a playoff style format that brings the top drivers closer to each other, and they battle it out for 10 races. Now the same drivers that were begging for a chance to catch the uncatchable are whining that they're giving up too much by entering the Chase. Jeff, I was proud to see the season you've put forth on your way to the Chase. It was a classic season the likes of which we haven't seen from your end of the organization in many many moons. However, you just completely threw that respect and admiration out the pissin' window with your comments. Shut up and drive, crybaby bitch.
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Post by Mayo #13 on Sept 16, 2007 11:24:00 GMT -6
No. Hes right. Its absolute BULLCRAP that you can have over a 300 point lead going into the chase, and then NOT be the points leader when the chase begins. I won't complain about the how many points everyone else gained on him, but I will complain about having one of the best seasons in racing, and then not lead the points at the start of the chase.
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Post by Diamondback on Sept 16, 2007 11:49:36 GMT -6
If he feels that way, he should have lobbied against the chase four years ago when they put it in place. It just seems childish to me to cry foul now, four years into the program, now that he's the one on top and looking at losing points. Where was the outrage four years ago?
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Post by Diamondback on Sept 16, 2007 11:52:40 GMT -6
This look pretty much sums it up for me...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2007 12:02:36 GMT -6
I DONT LIKE IT THAT GORDON LOST OVER 300 POINTS AND I DONT LIKE THE WHOLE DAM CHASE CR@P MYSELF. BUT IF I LOST THAT MUCH OF A LEAD I WOULD BE PI$$ED. SO CALLING JEFF GORDON A CRY BABY JUST SHOWES ME THAT YOU JUST WANT TO CRY ABOUT IT YOUR SELF DB...............
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Post by Mayo #13 on Sept 16, 2007 12:40:32 GMT -6
4 years ago, he still would have the lead, and in the "old" chase format, he still would of had the lead.
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Post by fish#027 on Sept 16, 2007 15:52:48 GMT -6
Isn't this the same format as last year? Why would a driver complain now? This is what Nascar is all about change it we can't hurt anyone!
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Post by diamonddave66 #766 on Sept 16, 2007 17:08:46 GMT -6
Isn't this the same format as last year? It's NASCAR,of course this isn't the same format.
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Post by Diamondback on Sept 18, 2007 2:23:52 GMT -6
Isn't this the same format as last year? It's NASCAR,of course this isn't the same format. LMAO ;D
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Post by bhester #15 on Sept 18, 2007 7:09:52 GMT -6
Hmmm, seems that when baseball, or football, or any other sport decides to hold a playoff to determine the best in their respective sports, they don't include all the scores from previous games. Is Nascar any different? Who is the best at the end of the year. You have a regular season where Gordon was great....Now it's the playoffs and everyone is looking at this as a 10 game series. What about the Red Sox this year? They probably will have the best record in baseball, but when they play the Yankees in the playoffs, they start out even. May the best team win...but only in the playoffs.
The only tweak I would like to see is that any race winner get in the Chase. That way in the last race before the Chase, anyone has a chance of getting in. Jr fans would have loved that opportunity, and so would the rest of the drivers who weren't in. Imagine the hype for that race compared to the one this year.
Quit the whining...its the playoffs. Time to put up or shut up!
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Post by n2wzb #140 on Sept 18, 2007 7:39:27 GMT -6
Let's look at Gordon's quote:
"If I didn't know what the rules were going into the season, I'd say we got the shaft," Gordon said. "But that's not the case. Ever since they've had the Chase, they've said what it is. This year they made the change to the 10 bonus points. It made the regular season more exciting. It made everybody push harder to get those wins. It did what it was supposed to do. But I do think they're going to have to revisit now, going back. If you're going to have incentives for guys to win races, you have to have some kind of incentive for a guy to go out there and be the points leader at that point. I wouldn't be surprised if they revisit that a little bit."
I don't see it as whining too much, he states that he knew what the deal was from the get-go, and maybe he should have brought this up a few races before the 26th race, but he makes good points. In other sports the standings leader gets home field advantage, a bye week, stuff like that in the playoffs.
How about this idea after literally minutes of thought about it: keep the points system the same, but give the regular season points leader choice of 3 races to start from the pole, and pit box choice for 5 races? Little things that would compensate the regular points leader to give them a slight competitive edge that may (or may not) pay off in the chase races. Kind of like super-provisionals? Also it would be interesting to armchair-quarterback the leader's decisions from a strategy perspective.
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Post by bhester #15 on Sept 18, 2007 8:30:20 GMT -6
Man, I love the idea of "super-provisional, and pit box choice." Thats a home field advantage that would have the so-called pundits talking and hyping.
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Post by T Stephens #6 on Sept 18, 2007 12:23:03 GMT -6
He knew it was coming, and it benefited him in years past until now. Then when he is in the position when "The Chase" begins and he loses the points to the format of the chase. I like the chase because it gives guys that ran good enough to make the chase but had some bad luck make up the ground and still have a chance to battle with the guys that had everything together for the first 26 races, and thats what gordon had he ran very consisantly and gained the most points. Im sure in years past that drivers were in the same boat as gordon is now, did they cry? NO, but i am sure they felt like they were robbed. The biggest thing Gordon need to do is keep running like he running thats how he got there in the first place and thats what wil keep him atop the chase.
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Post by Diamondback on Sept 20, 2007 16:37:19 GMT -6
Here's a novel idea... let's build a 36 race season. You earn points for every race, and at the end of that 36 race season, the driver with the most points wins. Well, at least somebody agrees with me...
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Post by sparkieokc on Sept 20, 2007 18:24:50 GMT -6
The whole Idea of the chase it crap....if you make the chase get 12th place money no matter what even if you don't run the rest of the season...no one can loose 12th place.. and there is a lot of guys 13th on down would could move in to the top 12 in points under the old system.. like Tony Steward last year..just to name one... I'd say give them a extra 5 points for winning and go back to the old system
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Post by Bumpdraft #88 on Sept 20, 2007 19:56:30 GMT -6
If they want it to be close, why don't they just reset everyone's points. Even Michael Waltrip would get 5000 points, plus ten for each win.
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Post by Diamondback on Sept 21, 2007 16:59:41 GMT -6
If they want it to be close, why don't they just reset everyone's points. Even Michael Waltrip would get 5000 points, plus ten for each win. I can see it now. He misses the first ten races next season, 46th in points going into the Chase, and takes home the title. I'd cry from laughing.
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